WLW 50,000 watt transmitter pictures

A friend was doing some radio engineering work around Cincinnati Ohio. He calls the WLW chief engineer and gets a tour of what is left of the 50,000 watt transmitter. He gave me his pictures and permission to upload them to this site. I have made all 22 pictures 100k or less.

My question, is this appropriate for this site and if so, do I use a radio manufacture’s page and full out the info the best I can? Thanks

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Dear Richard

Good question ...
Yes, first you or we have to create a new maker if the company is not yet listed.
Please click "Create new entries" on the HP (search page).

Then you find two links - one for uploading a new manufacturer the other for a new model (later).

On the form you get you find a blue info button (like on nearly all different pages). Please click it and read that content to be sure how to do it.

You can even share the acceptance process by clicking "Administrators" on the HP.
Later you can upload the name of the transmitter - or if there is none just give it WLW 50000 Watt Transmitter.

Your welcome to do that and we are looking forward to those interesting pictures - and later perhaps even a forum article about it via that model page would be of interest to the thousands of visitors (mainly guests) each day. The article will always stik to the model and keywords will bring good search results to the users..

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Dear Ernst

Thanks for your help and guidance. I will upload the pictures soon, I hope by Monday, depending on my schedule. I also would like to thank Tom Albrecht, I did mean 500,000 watts. I am looking forward to contributing to your very fine origination.

Best regards
Richard McWhorter

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Dear Richard
Thank you for introducing something new to RMorg.
At the start some admins had doubt if this is a collectable item but since we rather should be focussed on history now all agree that Broadcasting Stations are a very nice enhancement for something like a refernce site.

Then we faced problems with a system for "name giving":
If in the "Simple search for radios etc." you enter
Broadcasting Station you end up with 29 answers - too many. The same thing is with Transmitter.
The reason for that is "Station" and with "Broadcasting" you get no results ...
The "Exact search" is not helping much in this case.

One could use the "Advanced search for Antique Radios etc." and only look up Transmitters or a certain company. The reason: Konrad Birkner had the idea to bring in a new "Maker" as we have done for "Momarabilities". On this way we have a good search - but who knows this and uses differentiated searches ... Still, I find this a very good idea since the actual maker is often the same and (otherwise) can still be named in the notes etc.

Therefore I have changed the name fields in your case (admins have already set up a system - sorry that I'm going to change it) and I suggest that we do the following:

"Manufacturer/Brand": Always put in broadcasting and in the selection later you select "Broadcasting Station".

First name field "Model Name": Call Sign followed by City, State

Second name field "Model-Type/Chassis: always the term Broadcasting Station

Now the simple search is working fine: If you write broadcasting or broadcasting station you get only your model - at the moment. Later you get all broadcasting stations if members use this now.

I have the impression that 50 kWh would have been one of the "normal" radio stations at that time - but now it is a different matter with 500 kWh before the WW2 ...  I think the power of the station can best be addressed in the notes. I first thought in the field "Variant" but since a broadcasting station has often been upgraded this is not a good idea.

We have now a good system which allowes the easy introducing of Broadcasting Stations in a simple way - even if the formular is specialized for receivers. We have enough space in "Notes" where we also can use HTML-Code- for instance for separation of lines with a <br /> or a paragraph with <br /><br /> or enhancing code etc.

But we also have good possibilities  for bringing in forum articles about the history of the station etc. Since the field "Notes" is tiny (but can hold a lot of characters) this is the easiest way once your model has been accepted.

You then first go to the model page and then you select "Text for forum" in the link "Add information" on the link bar below the model description.

Please introduce further broadcasting stations ;-)

For German stations or stations in German speaking countries you might have to look for "Rundfunksender" - but this still has to come.

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According to listings in "Radio Station Treasury" by Tom Kneitel the station WLW in Cincinnati had 50 kW, not 500. That was still in 1946.

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Konrad,

By 1946 it could be the case that WLW was reduced to 50,000 watts.  Earlier, however, it had a higher power, as is noted here: WLW .  I'm looking forward to seeing Richard's pictures.

At some point in time, the maximum power for AM stations was limited to 50,000 watts, and that remains in force today.  Only certain "clear channel" stations on certain frequencies are allowed to operate at that power 24 hours a day.  The vast majority of stations here operate at lower powers, typically between 1,000 and 10,000 watts.  Some have as little as 250 watts.

Best regards,

Tom

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Tom,

Yes, You are right. There was power reduction. I had picked only one table, sorry.
The a.m. 1946 listing shows the max. power of 50,000 watts for 51 so called Standard Stations, out of a total of 960.
41 more stations had a construction permit (1 for 50,000 watts).
500 stations had 250 watts and 19 used only 100 watts.

For Crosley's station WLW  I found the following figures:
in 1923.............?? watts (970 kilocycles / 309 meters)
in 1926.......5,000 watts (710 kilocycles / 422.3 meters)
in 1931.....50,000 watts (700 kilocycles / 428.3 meters)
in 1936...500,000 watts (700 kilocycles / 428.3 meters)
in 1942.....50,000 watts (700 kilocycles / 428.3 meters)
in 1946.....50,000 watts (700 kilocycles / 428.3 meters)

Best regards,
KoBi

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Dear Richard
Thank you for introducing this first broadcasting station here. Wonderful pictures ... Perhaps yu can also write into the legend afterwards about the details? You reach them by clicking your name and finding the link to your pictures.

Who will introduce other broadcasting stations?

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